
But now with this new paper, you wrote a letter to editor. And, many of that work was based on your work, for your PhD and the papers that were published in the seventies, in fire technology. John was actually on this podcast around episode 10, talking about it in about the historical origins of fire testing. And the reason why I ask you about it is that, sometime ago there was a paper by John gales. And I, I would like come back actually to the times when he done that, I have happened to seen a big part of that. And I really like, for some reason to talk about people's PhDs and you happen to be the first fire protection engineering PhD. I, I really enjoy having, people who are leaders of the industry in here. I appreciate the opportunity to share whatever I can, of my, experience and my points of view, within the profession. I am today with Dr Vytenis Babrauskas, hello Vyto. And for this talk well, lets spin the intro and jump into the episode. If you'd like to learn about, Professor Babrauskas and he's books and other stuff that he's providing. And you're ready to listen to the interview. So I think this does not require any more. Depth to truly consider them and maybe stop a while and think about it. So this gives these thoughts, this additional. And the second thing, well, he's talking from five decades of experience doing that. on the first thought you would think they're not very deep and they're like very obvious. we need to have, well, Clarified goals that are written in the law for performance busy engineering. In conclusions, Vito is going back to some very simple guidance, which sounds like obvious. We need diverse voices and sometimes you need to listen some harsh words to move forward. And many of the topics may be a little controversial or may sound controversial. And that touches both the history and the future of fire safety. And actually, I think this is a quite interesting conversation. And why the fire science has not picked on them. we're also identified already 30, 40 years ago. I wondered if the problems we meet today or the. His views on where the fire science is lacking or where, what are the white spots in fire science? Because that was very interesting to me. Anyway, we all know Vyto and I have invited him to, uh, the podcast to discuss. It's actually quite difficult to list all the achievements of his. I just con colorimetry or furniture calorimeters, and many, many more. And more than that, he's also been involved in the development of the tools that we all use such.

pieces have helped thousands of fire engineers in their profession. He's supposedly the first PhD in fire safety engineering, which is an amazing feat amazing title and an author off absolutely landmark handbooks, such as the Ignition handbook and more recently Electrical Fires and Explosions handbook. I'm super happy to tell you that today I am hosting a true legend of fire safety and fire science professor Vytenis Babrauskas. My wife is convinced I will never grow up. However, underneath this bald, wrinkly exterior, there beats the heart of a youngster. I've been writing since I was 14 and that is half a century ago. That’s why you’ll find leafy lanes and thatched cottages in most of my books.

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